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Cardinal pitcher Kyle Lohse is a regular guest on The ITD Morning After. And, while there's no question that he has failed to live up to the contract the Cardinals gave him following the 2008 season, no one has been more blunt about their disappointment in Lohse's performance than Kyle Lohse himself.

I've always appreciated Lohse's willingness to come on the show and answer questions about his struggles, because there's really not a whole lot of positive things to discuss. He's either been injured, rehabbing, or pitching poorly for most of the last two years.

Nonetheless, he's been straightforward, critical of himself, and full of praise for his teammates. In a world where athletes oftentimes adhere to the Bull Durham school of answering questions from the media, Lohse is a pleasant change of pace who plays ball with the nitwittery on the show.

So, I was looking forward to getting Lohse's take on the Brendan Ryan trade that, despite the Rams being in first place, the Blues playing the Red Wings, and Missouri signing Sheldon Richardson, still seems to have most St. Louis area sports fans bothered.

My subjective survey based on calls to the show, texts to the show, and message boards is that those who are upset about the Ryan trade aren't as upset about Ryan being gone as they are upset by the fear that Tony La Russa has taken complete control of the clubhouse...and if you aren't with Tony, you're gone.

Quite honestly, that's exactly what I thought was going on when the Cardinals acquired Ryan Theriot and, as opposed to saying that Theriot will split time at the middle infield positions with Ryan and Skip Schumaker, they said he's the shortstop...and they likely would be trading Brendan Ryan.

I figured---like I think most Cardinal fans did---that this was Tony La Russa wanting to get rid of a guy who drove him up the wall.

But, over the last couple of days, sources indicate that it was more a case of some of the players than Tony La Russa who thought it would be best for a change when it came to Brendan Ryan. Here's Kyle Lohse's explanation when he joined us on The ITD Morning After:

McKernan: 
The thing that’s been the hottest topic here, even though we have an NFL Team here that’s in first place, is the Brendan Ryan trade, and I mean people are still buzzing about this thing over the last few days.  And leading up to it with the acquisition of Ryan Theriot it became pretty clear that Ryan would be moving out.  What’s your take on that Kyle, because a lot of it I don’t want to say is rumored, it’s reported to be a clubhouse thing.  And we would have fun with him on the show and all that stuff and he seemed like a very likable guy to the media and the team, but the vibe I’m getting and I realize you may want to play it political and I totally get that and wouldn't blame you, is that there was some stuff going on that the media wasn’t aware of that alienated some of the veterans.

Lohse: You know let me say first of all, I like Brendan, and I think a lot of guys wanted him to do well.  We all tried to help him out and tried to help him understand what being a professional was, and I think sometimes, you know, he’s a very likeable guy, but I honestly think that when things aren’t go so good, and you’re still kind of the way he is you know, I mean, he’s a very enjoyable guy to be around but when you’re still kind of forgetting to do the things you’re supposed to, it starts to wear on you.  He by no way is any reason why we didn’t take the NL Central but, I think just one little distraction that kind of rubbed some people the wrong way and it’s just one of those things that doesn’t help a team out and Brendan Ryan is who he is, and he’s going to continue being that guy and personally I like him. I just don’t think he’s ever going to change and the inability to get serious about things, I think, kind of makes people really tired of you, I think.  Maybe that’s not the best way to put it, but I think it rubs people the wrong way sometimes.

Doug: Is that what it was he’s just kind of a happy go lucky guy, and if you guys would be beat, he acted like he didn’t care? 

Lohse: It wasn’t that, don’t..it wasn’t that he didn’t care, he takes his job serious, he cares a lot. There’s a time for fun and a time for seriousness and you know, there’s not a doubt in my mind that he cares and that he wants to do well, and that has nothing to do with…that’s probably why he struggled even more because he wanted to do even better than he was doing and I think that some of the timing of things, you know, I wasn’t there when he was late out to the field in Cincinnati, but you know, there’s things along those lines that can kind of rub a guy the wrong way when you’re not a rookie anymore and you know it’s just my take on things, and that’s all it is.

To listen to all of Kyle Lohse on The ITD Morning After, click HERE.


What do you think about Lohse's comments? Does it give you a different perspective on the Brendan Ryan trade? Log-in and post your comments, or you can email me at tmckernan@insidestl.com.

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afanger
# afanger
Thursday, December 16, 2010 8:16 AM
sooooo, he is a goofy dumbass, and carpenter destroying him on tv was a microcosm to the entire teams view of ryan.

i hate larussa more than ANYONE. but this move didn't bother me. he batted .223 last year with 17 errors!!!!! cmon people, get over it.

go rams!
mike8585
# mike8585
Thursday, December 16, 2010 11:59 AM
I agree. That dude is a moron. Unless you've had a friend or co-worker that acts like him, you don't realize how "old" that crap gets. He needed a wake up call and this was better for both parties involved. If "everyone" says your weird, then you probably are. I'm sure he's fun outside of the so called "workplace", but it gets old real fast when things aren't going well.
brockohol
# brockohol
Thursday, December 16, 2010 12:18 PM
Awesome interview!!!

I have never heard a STL athlete actually give some insight to the teams feelings/thoughts like that. I hope alot of the people bashing the Cardinals over trading Brendan either heard this or read it. You cant expect someone in Mo's position to come out and say this stuff, in fact, its his job not to say this stuff. We just traded him to another team, how would it look if a week later the GM came out and said, "well he was kind of unprofessional and alot of the guys didnt like the way he acted in the locker room." The Seattle GM would be like "what the fuck man, why did you trade me this guy and tell me he was good and then turn around and tell your media and fans that he was a retard."

KMFP
# KMFP
Thursday, December 16, 2010 2:13 PM
It's ri-TARD
brockohol
# brockohol
Friday, December 17, 2010 5:32 PM
Well yes of course but I was quoting the Seattle GM who probably says Re-tard...just guessing
cabowabo
# cabowabo
Saturday, December 18, 2010 10:15 AM
yo lohse why don't you get serious and win some ball games

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